Has Clinton just conceded the nomination?

Has Clinton just conceded the nomination?

Clinton said Friday: "I think that after the final primaries, people are going to start making up their minds. I think that is the natural progression that one would expect."

Clinton said, "I think that people will have to ask themselves those questions, who would be the best president in terms of preparation and readiness and effectiveness, and who would be the stronger candidate."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_o n_el_pr/clinton&printer=1;_ylt=Ar.zY IibeZPbT6stPJ.PKThh24cA

All trends point to Barack Obama winning the nomination.  He leads in all delegate counts with only about 40 to go to clinch it.  

He is up in both South Dakota and Montana by double digits.

Thank God that this race is over.  We can now concentrate all fire power on John McCain!

We can now star working towards party unification and outreach to Republicans and independents.



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Re: Has Clinton just conceded the nomination? (2.00 / 3)

I'm not sure how you can conclude that she conceded the nomination by your quotes.

By the way, the requisite number of delegates will not be 40 after tomorrow.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:34:37 PM EST

Re: Has Clinton just conceded the nomination? (none / 0)

It would probably be 20 SDs needed.

Demcomwatch has the most likely results (1/2 votes and either 69/59 MI or Obama getting the undecided vote) having Obama needing 75 or 82.5 respectively after the decision.

He still has about 20 add ons coming (55/62.5), will probably get at least 22 out of PR (33/42.5) and then another 16 out of MT/SD (17/26.5).  That's giving Clinton better than expected results out of PR/MT/SD.  He'd have 165 potential SD votes to get the remaining 17 or 26.5 he'd need.  Not too bad.


Beat McCain!
by thezzyzx on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:41:26 PM EST
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i was thinking the same thing VAAlex! (2.00 / 3)


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:44:50 PM EST
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Re: i was thinking the same thing VAAlex! (2.00 / 1)

Whatever it is, Barack Obama will be a hell of a lot closer to it than Clinton!


If I had to make a prediction right now, I'd say Barack Obama is going to be the next president.
by Andre X on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:46:38 PM EST
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agreed. he will be CLOSER... (2.00 / 1)


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:48:47 PM EST
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Re: agreed. he will be CLOSER... (none / 0)

Without a doubt and those Supers will all come out once Pelosi, Reid and Dean start rolling.


If I had to make a prediction right now, I'd say Barack Obama is going to be the next president.
by Andre X on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:51:58 PM EST
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Good for her (2.00 / 2)

I think that people will have to ask themselves those questions, who would be the best president in terms of preparation and readiness and effectiveness, and who would be the stronger candidate.

A nice, strong endorsement of Obama.  Can't wait until it is officially over and she starts working with him instead of competing with him.


by libertyleft on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:37:35 PM EST

Re: Good for her (2.00 / 1)

AMEN


If I had to make a prediction right now, I'd say Barack Obama is going to be the next president.
by Andre X on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:46:53 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (2.00 / 2)

You know that is not an endorsement of Obama.  He fails on all counts mentioned in that quote.


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:48:53 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (none / 0)

How much money does he have raised compared to anyone else in the campaign?


If I had to make a prediction right now, I'd say Barack Obama is going to be the next president.
by Andre X on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:52:38 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (2.00 / 1)

Why?  You want the election to be sold to the highest bidder?  


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:23:07 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (none / 0)

No - an Obama has 1.5 million 'low' bidders. I think that wins in terms of activism and support. Next


Pointing to the inadequacies of John McCain
by duende on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:46:55 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (2.00 / 1)

His abilities in preperation, readiness, and effectiveness may have been questionable prior to the primary season, but the mastery with which he has run his campaign has put those concerns to rest in the eyes of most members of the Democratic primary.  

I think you underestimate Hillary.  If she thinks it is over next week she has accepted how this is going to end.  I am proud of her for doing so with such grace and humility.


by libertyleft on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:59:18 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (2.00 / 1)

Running a campaign is not like running a country.  Bush's 2000 campaign was mighty well done, just for one example.


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:24:07 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (none / 0)

Bush was also able to implement most of his policies, albeit shitty ones, during the first 4 years of his presidency.  


by reggie23 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:28:07 PM EST
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Re: Good for her (2.00 / 1)

Yes, largely because of Cheney's dark evil skilz and 9/11.  And of course a populace that was impressed by Bush's speeches and a media that wasn't doing its job.


by Montague on Sat May 31, 2008 at 12:16:57 AM EST
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Re: Good for her (none / 0)

Don't we want a president that can do the same, except for out side.  It would be nice to see a democratic president to have carte blanche on implementing progressive policies.  


by reggie23 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 09:02:58 PM EST
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I'm sure (none / 0)

she'll spend the summer working to prove it too.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 05:45:30 PM EST
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Re: I'm sure (none / 0)

She's already proven herself, thanks anyway.


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:25:13 PM EST
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How? (none / 0)

What is her executive experience?  What crucial decisions has she made?  What tough judgment calls has she made?


by JJE on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:27:41 PM EST
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Yeah (none / 0)

and she still lost. So now she has to discredit and tear apart her opponents.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:52:47 PM EST
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Re: Yeah (none / 0)

Nobody has won yet.  Don't count those eggs yet.  Plus which, Obama started the negative campaigning before the Iowa caucus.


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 07:35:04 PM EST
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Fails compared to whom? (none / 0)


by JJE on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:24:45 PM EST
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Re: Fails compared to whom? (2.00 / 1)

Fails to be the best choice for president and/or the stronger candidate.  


by Montague on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:25:52 PM EST
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She'll just go on vacation for a month (2.00 / 1)

without any decision on whether it's going to the convention or not. It will be convention psyche out. LOL. She'll just chill all summer while GOP carve up Obama with all his radical friends/ministers and see what goes where. If he tanks in the summer, the delegates will just change their vote at the convention.

Hillary's just has to step out of the way and watch.


It's an election, not an auction.
by cosbo on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:55:33 PM EST

Re: She'll just go on vacation for a month (none / 0)

Or become John McCain's running mate


If I had to make a prediction right now, I'd say Barack Obama is going to be the next president.
by Andre X on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:57:44 PM EST
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Re: She'll just go on vacation for a month (none / 0)

no, not another meme!  i can't take it!


by the mollusk on Fri May 30, 2008 at 04:59:17 PM EST
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Has Clinton just conceded the nomination? YES. (none / 0)

Obama will get the necessary delegates to have an outright majority, either on June 3rd or soon after.  He'll have enough delegates that it won't even matter if the FL and MI delegates are fully seated, he'll still have a majority of delegates.  

So, if Clinton wanted to continue her campaign, her only hope would be to try to convince Obama superdelegates to switch sides.  If that's what she wanted to do, she would be emphasizing that superdelegates can always change their minds, and so it's really not over until the actual votes are taken at the convention.  

But, the statement above doesn't sound like someone who is suggesting that superdelegates really haven't made any binding decision yet so Obama really won't have enough delegates until the convention.  Sounds like she acknowledging that the supers will make their decision known publicly and soon, and then we shall see what happens as a result; i.e., Obama winning the nomination.  
 


by ProfessorReo on Fri May 30, 2008 at 05:36:34 PM EST

Re: Has Clinton just conceded the nomination? (none / 0)

Here's what I suspect is happening: Clinton is being told by SDs who are supporting her that they will all declare for a candidate next week, the only way she can continue to Denver is if she can demonstrate that she has a reasonable chance to win, and if she doesn't, and won't pull out, these SDs will flip.

Because there's no reason, at this point, why she shouldn't be making the tactical argument that SDs should declare as late as possible (even at the convention).  So no, not a concession, but she's recognizing that she's running out of options.


by IncognitoErgoSum on Fri May 30, 2008 at 06:16:48 PM EST


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