CNN suggested SHE'd Assassinate Him. Twice.

CNN suggested she'd assassinate him. Twice.

We just sent complaints like this to the cable news stations.

On two recent primary nights a pundit on CNN in covering the primary answered the question of whether Obama should pick Clinton as Vice President.  In the first instance David Gergen said ,"Not if he wants to survive his first term".

Even though there were emails of outrage to CNN at the suggestion that Clinton would assassinate Obama to get his job, the very next primary night another pundit, Alex Castellanos (at 3:50 pm PDT May 13, for those who need a citation), in answer to the same question said,  "He'd have to hire a food taster".

Each night there were other pundits supporting Obama on the set and they and the anchors gave not one whit of disapproval.  The only reaction was general laughter!  Now those comments were undisputedly meant for the viewer to think of Hillary Clinton as a murderer.  And they were said and repeated and laughed at because they felt comfortable that there would be no reproach, no punishment, no outrage, no negative consequences to the pundits, the program , the others on the stage or CNN.  Why is that?  How were they so sure, so comfortable with those accusations?

Ask yourself why would a line whose meaning had to be painfully twisted to get a negative meaning cause such an uproar when it was clearly not being interpreted as intended.And create an uproar of indignation?  And two very public comments by professional commentators be interpreted as they were clearly intended and to no response but collegial laughter?

What ism is that?

Would you please remind people who are outraged by the RFK reference that RFK, Jr is not.  And that the question Hillary was dealing with was "Why do they want to push you out before the primary is over?  Why do they want you to end your campaign so early?"   She answered that others had lasted till June.   Yet how many informed talking heads have we heard, even some Hillary supporters, who think that the question was "Why are you still in the race?"  Ask the two different questions and you can see that what Hillary answered was about lasting till June.  The way the Obama supporters (and practically every media outlet went along,) reinterpreted the comment was to have it answer" Why are you still. here?  Answer: "He might get assassinated!"

Hillary could have mentioned that Ted Kennedy kept the race going till the convention when he was 976  assumed delegates behind Carter.  He fought to change a thousand delegates on the convention floor.  He received a lot of criticism for making such a challenge to a sitting President of his own party.  Hillary could make a very good case of running through August on his example, but she probably was too sensitive to his current condition to raise it.  To everybody old enough to care inn 1968, we remember the California primary night was in June, BECAUSE Robert Kennedy was assassinated that night.  A lot of primaries have extended that far in recent history, but what happened to Kennedy is WHY we remember the primary was still running in June.  When Time Magazine quoted this statement from Clinton in March, where was the outrage the same magazine pretends to have today?  How about the several other times she has mentioned it?  The difference is that this time the Obama camp told you to be outraged and showed you a different interpretation than we all had before this time.  The people on the editorial board in the room in the discussion this time did not get the Obama interpretation.  Why is that?

The same twisting interpretations have been applied by the Obama campaign and trumpeted by almost every media outlet when Hillary tried to speak about the difference s between having a President who hopes to get something done and a President with the experience to work to get it done.  To illustrate she used JFK's speech about his hope to pass a civil rights bill and LBJ's work and experience with legislation got it passed and signed into law.  Civil rights makes a good example of something very meaningful to lots of people and to Hillary.  As a teenager she saw Dr. King speak and was inspired to public service and  civil rights by his leadership.

No mention of civil rights could not begin without deference to Dr. King, so she put him in her example.  But after the Obama campaign gave its reactionary racist interpretation on her statement it became to the media and Black voters a horrendous dismissal of Dr. King and an attempt to elevate Johnson in a racially inspired call out to white people to vote against a black man. Within a week Hillary lost half of the Black vote.  It and other applications of the same ploy did irreparable damage to two people who had dedicated their lives to the service of helping others.

There is no defense against this tactic if the press decides to engage in it rather than expose it and call it out as the divisive, unethical and dishonest grab for political gain that it is.  So far you folks have helped Obama do this to Hillary, Bill, Ferraro, Johnson, Shaheen, and several others.

How often did you help your viewers see the other, more innocent and more likely to be true, interpretations of the comments by these people and how often did you decide to help Obama demonize these people by taking the most unlikely (given their histories of behavior on the subjects) interpretation that caused the most damage to Clinton's campaign and personally to her and her supporters?  

We can see that Obama is taking this approach repeatedly because of the political advantage it gives him.  It may be the thing most responsible if he becomes the nominee and the President.  You will have given him that.  You should have been giving your viewers a sound perspective on what was a much more likely interpretation of the comments and some context of other times it was said and the history of the person in context with the issues. Hillary and Bill had no context of racism or racist acts and statements, for instance, until Obama said they did.

 Did you give your viewers enough context to have them understand that Obama was doing something divisive and opportunistic that was not supportable with what we know of the Clintons?  Or did you let yourselves be manipulated into helping him try to destroy them and Hillary's candidacy.  How is it that he is continually being advantaged by disadvantaging others?  What happened to achieving on merit?

His political fortunes are boosted primarily by these media storms around his claims of lack of character in others.  Do you know how many of us out here think that shows a lack of character in Obama?  And in those who help him get away with it?

This man, in four months, has reopened painful wounds from racism and sexism that this country has spent the last fifty years trying to learn how to heal.  All of the evolving we had done, all of the work to come together as different races and genders and fight for equality of respect, opportunity and justice has been beaten and threatened by the ambitious campaign  strategy of a man who would be President on a promise of unity and hope.  And you helped.

What are you going to do to fix it?
                       #

So, mydd:
What are we going to do?  Are we going to give him the presidency for dividing us like this? Do we really want this atmosphere of reactionary gangs beating up on people and ideals we value, always making people choose sides and strike out as each other.  Always censoring remarks in case someone reactionary or Machiavellian campaigner wanted to contort the words, give them some awful meaning and them use them to gainn personal and destructive advantage?  Are we really getting what we want from this campaign of "hope, unity and a new kind of politics"?

Fortunately the recent primaries and polling continue to show that Clinton is being supported by the voters, regardless of what Obama tries and the media helps him with.  The electoral maps are showing her winning most of the potential swing states against McCain and Obama losing to McCain. She is polling well with growing support in all non-Black bloc demographic groups and AA voters continue to tell polsters that they will support Hillary in the 70% range if she is the nominee.

So far the party leaders, the media and the blogs have gotten up in arms about these twisted remarks, but the democratic general election voters are less and less inclined to seek advice from them on Hillary.

 They seem to be telling us that they feel comfortable assessing her candidacy for themselves and they seem to be looking at her as being a pretty good president who is "honest (according to the exit polls lately) and who shares my values and cares about people like me!"



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Shame on Gergen. (2.00 / 2)

Shame on him.


by catfish2 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:36:44 PM EST

Re: Shame on Gergen. (none / 0)

Gergen, another former Hillary supporter who is now beyond the pale. The list is growing longer each day.

For a complete list of all traitors go to
Tinfoilis44.com


McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.
by catilinus on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:18:49 PM EST
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Is that the official hit list? (none / 0)


by netgui68 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:28:43 PM EST
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Re: Is that the official hit list? (none / 0)

Lol.


McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.
by catilinus on Sun May 25, 2008 at 01:23:28 AM EST
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CNN is trying to assasinate Hillary (none / 0)

Has that ever been in doubt?

CNN is irrelevant and ugly...


http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Ep isode.aspx?sched=1242
Confused by the 'Bailout' Lies?
Listen to NPR's The Giant Pool of Money
by architek on Sun May 25, 2008 at 09:39:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]

A Song for You (none / 0)

You are my sunshine
My only sunshine
You make me happy, when skies are grey
You'll never know, dear, how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:39:16 PM EST

Hmm. (2.00 / 3)

1) Obama is responsible for the firestorms surrounding the people you noted above, not them sticking their own feet in their mouth.

2) It's a calculated Machiavellian plan, and the only reason he's winning the primary race.

3) You cherry pick and ignore polls that don't suit the twisted bit of logic you're espousing.

4) You slam Obama supporters as being akin to nothing better than rabble rousers, imply electoral blackmail if your candidate's not nominated, and seem to be inciting the divisiveness that you're claiming the Obama camp is engaging in.

Only one thing to say, I suppose.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:41:07 PM EST

b.s. (none / 0)

You sure do give the Senator a lot of power over all things.

I hope you don't really believe that garbage you wrote.


by notme54 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:48:38 PM EST
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I missed your snarkitude (none / 0)

it's easy to do these days.

Sorry.


by notme54 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:49:49 PM EST
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indeed it is (none / 0)

rec


by ameridad on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:52:21 PM EST
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If the last one didn't work, try this one: (2.00 / 1)

Zippity Doo Dah

Zippity Doo Dah
Zippity Ay
My oh my
What a wonderful day.

Plenty of sunshine
Comin' my way.
Zippity Doo Dah
Zippity Ay

Mr. Bluebird on my shoulder,
It's the truth;
It's actual;
Everything is satisfactual.

Zippity Doo Dah
Zippity Ay
Wonderful feeling,
Wonderful day!


by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:43:48 PM EST

Re: CNN suggested SHE'd Assassinate Him. Twice. (2.00 / 3)

the media drive-bys gave us Obama. I wonder what their excuse will be if he loses. It will definitely be "because of racist Hillary and racist Hillary supporters." Sadly, CNN is the only cable news semi-barable. MSNBC and Fox don't do her any justice either.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:45:21 PM EST

Do you have your crankypants on too? Here: (1.00 / 1)

Here is a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy......

Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The land lord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy
Lood at me I am happy
Don't worry, be happy
Here I give you my phone number
When you worry call me
I make you happy
Don't worry, be happy
Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got not girl to make you smile
But don't worry be happy
Cause when you worry
Your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy (now).....

There is this little song I wrote
I hope you learn it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
Listen to what I say
In your life expect some trouble
But when you worry
You make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Don't worry don't do it, be happy
Put a smile on your face
Don't bring everybody down like this
Don't worry, it will soon past
Whatever it is
Don't worry, be happ


by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:48:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Bad DiamondJay, No Dessert for You (none / 0)

Bobby McFerrin is NOT a troll.

He might look happy on the outside, but after what you've just done, he's crying on the inside.


by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:04:23 PM EST
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Re: CNN suggested SHE'd Assassinate Him. Twice. (none / 0)

points off for using the term "media drive-bys"....That is Limabugh Lingo


"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08
by feliks on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:37:38 AM EST
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Re: CNN suggested SHE'd Assassinate Him. Twice. (2.00 / 1)

Your diary as it points any accusing finger at Sen. Obama is a complete fabrication.  

Here is his first and only comment on the issue.

I have learned that when you are campaigning for as many months as Senator Clinton and I have been campaigning, sometimes you get careless in terms of the statements that you make and I think that is what happened here. Senator Clinton says that she did not intend any offense by it and I will take her at her word on that.

Then you say this;

Hillary and Bill had no context of racism or racist acts and statements, for instance, until Obama said they did.

Please provide one, just one example where "Obama said they did"

You can't blame this on Sen. Obama, he gave her a complete pass on this issue.  

Now if you have some examples from Sen. Obama, please feel free to share.


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:49:10 PM EST

Re: CNN suggested SHE'd Assassinate Him. Twice. (2.00 / 2)

Here is a recent Huffpo article about the famous Obama Campaign memo that led the racism charge in the week before the South Carolina primary, titled: "Read Obama's Campaign Memo on Clintons' Politicizing of Race".

Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the full accurate quote from the tapes do not appeat in the memo or the article.  What appears is the Obama campaign's selection/interpretation of the quotes instead of the truth.  

If that is not enough you can google them or look in the mydd archives for dairies where news stories of Obama going around to Black leaders and white liberal leaders, including Kennedy and talking about the issues in the memo with them and how "troubling" he found it that racial comments, race card, racially tinged remarks, dog whistling, stirring racial difficulties, and other phrases that showed up in the press at the time.

According to Jesse Jackson at the time, Obama called him out of a meeting in India to tell him of the racial remarks being make and Jackson says he told Obama that he did not see the comments as racist and that he would forget them.

Kennedy, on the other hand took exception to how Obama personally showed him the remarks about JFK and Kennedy endorsed Obama that day and went to California to campaign for him with Latinos immediately.  Rep. Clyburn of SC was on every news show for a week talking about how the Clintons' had better watch it or be sorry for prining race into the campaign or his "neutrality agreement" made with the party to secure a primary for SC inn the first four would go by the wayside and he would endorse Obama!

 Various white leaders Kennedy and Pelosi among them, also gave press conferences to warn the Clintons about the race card, several mentioning speaking personally with Obama about the "very troubling remarks", as he interpreted them.

If that's not enough for you, go do your research. Since you must have missed this stuff first go round, maybe you could study up before commenting further about stuff you are not up on.  There tends to be a big difference between the Obama myth of a story and the story itself.
 Although some of the Obama supporters on blogs and in msm seem to prefer the myths from the campaign talking points, there are still a few reporters who write down what happened and we can find them if we try.  Then we can decide what to believe.


by itsadryheat on Sat May 24, 2008 at 10:45:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You missed Bill Bishop, Obama spokesman (none / 0)


by itsadryheat on Sat May 24, 2008 at 11:59:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I don't like mindless echo chambers when (2.00 / 1)

Republicans do it,  and I don't like it when progressives do it.
If I were Hillary, I'd go on Sunday talk and call Obama out - - "do you believe I said I wanted you dead?  and, if not, tell your staff to stfu."
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:52:23 PM EST

Re: I don't like mindless echo chambers when (2.00 / 1)

Uhh, his staff never suggested that was the intent, just that it was a silly thing to say, and Obama himself said "Hey, people misspeak. If she said she didn't mean it, I believe her."


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:55:23 PM EST
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Re: I don't like mindless echo chambers when (2.00 / 2)

She didn't mean WHAT?  It was absurd from the first moment for the Obama campaign to take any umbrage whatsoever about the comment because it had nothing at all to do with him.  Did she actually say, "I'm hoping my rival will be assassinated soon?"  Because if so, I missed that.


by Montague on Sat May 24, 2008 at 09:54:34 PM EST
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Everybody did till Obama staff alerted us. (2.00 / 1)


by itsadryheat on Sat May 24, 2008 at 10:49:17 PM EST
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Wrong again, ragekage; Check Bill Bishop. (2.00 / 1)

Obama campaign official spokesperson. It was Bishop encouraging the press to "see" the "troubling" aspects of the Clinton interview.  After which they "saw". just like always.


by itsadryheat on Sun May 25, 2008 at 12:04:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Hey, don't let kos get you down, join in! (1.00 / 1)

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by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:57:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: CNN suggested SHE'd Assassinate Him. Twice. (none / 0)

It's a pity you spoil your reportage of appalling and grotesque comments from media pundits with an impressively long, incoherent rant blaming Obama and Obama supporters for... well, something.

Gergen and Castellanos are deserving of censure.

Shame on both of them.


by letterc on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:58:24 PM EST

WOW!! (2.00 / 1)

we ARE on the same wave length!!! I just posted a similar diary - Underneath those Remarks......


by nikkid on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:04:08 PM EST

Hey, nik, I'm just headed over there! (none / 0)

Good on ya'!


by itsadryheat on Sat May 24, 2008 at 10:51:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obviously... (2.00 / 2)

Obviously Clinton is preparing to assassinate Obama.  It's the only reasonable explanation for her comment in South Dakota.  

Counting the votes in Michigan and Florida is also part of her nefarious scheme.  I hear the Florida delegation is part of her personal hit squad and that the Michigan delegation is in charge of food prep for the convention, with a nasty reputation for making delicious cyanide brownies.  


Lifelong Democrat, civil rights advocate, former volunteer for Dem candidates. Now Independent.
by BPK80 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 08:26:37 PM EST


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